Wednesday, March 28, 2007

Watch out Simon, there are Lost Spoilers in this post

I only watched this week's lost last night, and wasn't it a good one? Ben is great: "No John, we don't have a secret code for 'there's someone in the cupboard holding a gun to my daughter's head". Classic.

Firstly, it wasn't Locke that fell past the window in an earlier Hurley episode:

Secondly, I'm sure that the "box" is not real, but with all the biblical themes and names in Lost, Pandora's Box sprung straight into my head. I like the idea of the Others (the "good guys", remember) trying to close it. I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that Locke's "father" is not really on the island, and that what we saw was the smoke monster (a la Eko's brother). I wonder if Locke's father was the original "Sawyer" who killed Sawyer's mother?



Blogger Jenny said...

Um, this is a long comment with mutiple facets. I apologize in advance, but this is just how my brain works.

a.) The episode was good, but not as good as the Sayid one.

b.) Ben is my absolute most favorite character and has been ever since he was first on the show last season. I just think he's so great (in a sinister sort of way) and I love how he's always one step ahead of everyone else. Which is precisely why I think that Ben knew that Locke was going to come and take him hostage. I think that Ben must be using Locke for something and I think Locke is totally unaware of this and thinks that he's now in control. I think he's going to feel really stupid once he realizes that Ben is a mastermind.

c.) How can you even tell that's not Locke in that clip? The person is falling so rapidly.

d.) I miss the numbers. And the hatch.

e.) Pandora's box is not biblical. According to Wikipedia, it's a part of Greek mythology.

f.) I sometimes wonder if the Others are indeed the "good" guys. I think the show's agenda is to show that people, in general, are not good (despite both your wanting to see goodness in others and despite others wanting only to see their own goodness). Think about it - we want to think that the Losties are good precisely because we were introduced to them first, in a sympathetic way. We don't know the story from the Others' point of view. If it's true that they're going to do this show as a 5-year series followed up by a movie, I think it'd be interesting for the movie to be what happened from the perspective of the Others.

g.) I listen to LOST podcasts (because I am a nerd and feed on hearing LOST theories) and there are many who have the same theory, that Locke's dad is the real Sawyer. Someone gave an interesting theory that perhaps Locke will redeem himself (and thus, die) by defending his father from Sawyer (should Sawyer discover the real Sawyer on the island). Although he has a sordid past, I just really have a hard time seeing Sawyer want to kill someone, even if it is the real Sawyer and even if the real Sawyer killed Sayer's mother. So, I'm not sure I ascribe to that theory, although I think that Locke's dad probably is the real Sawyer. Did you hear about that anagram? ("Anthony Cooper, Adam Seward" is anagram for "Sawyer, the con man, a poor dad".) It is stuff like this that makes me gape in wonder at how awesome this show is.

h. Interesting theory about the real Sawyer being the smoke monster. I'll have to think about that one.

11:13 pm  
Blogger swishfish said...

That was a long comment!

a) I think the Sayid one was not the best as it gave the typical Lost frustration: answer 1 question and pose 637 more.

b) I'm in total agreement with you on Ben. He's just a great character, and the superb acting helps.

c) The person is wearing a suit.

d) I'm certain we'll be hearing more about the numbers.

e) Oops. Shows you how religious I am...

f) I like the Others film idea. Lost does like the "2 sides to every story" angle.

g) Bearing in mind that Jack was supposed to die in the pilot episode, the central/important character must be someone else. I reckon it's Locke, and that he will therefore be there right at the end.

h) I meant on the island only, of course. Not in the real world. Maybe the island/Ben are testing Locke further...

8:18 am  
Blogger Jenny said...

Right, I knew you meant on the island only.

Jack was supposed to die in the pilot episode?

1:17 pm  
Blogger swishfish said...

If you check out the main entry for Lost on Wikipedia (at the start of the section entitled "casting"), it says that Jack was intended to die in the pilot, but the executives liked the character and insisted that he survived. I'm sure that I have heard the producers say this, maybe on their podcast.

That basically hints to me that he is not necessarily the key to the "big picture" and has simply been a focus due to audiences loving a hero.

1:24 pm  
Blogger Jenny said...

Oh...I haven't listened to the official podcasts because they bore me (at least, the ones I've heard bore me).

I know that Jack has saved lives and all, but is Jack really a hero? I think I am continually turned off by Jack simply because he's a "it's my way or the highway" sort of guy. I guess, then, I wonder whether one can be a hero and yet be totally cocky and controlling. I suppose the real answer is that one cannot be my hero and be those things, despite the good works they may do in conjunction.

On the podcast I listen to a listener called in this week and proposed that Locke is the key character in the series. That the closer and closer Locke begins to identify with the island, the more and more Locke's character will begin to rise and take control. I think this listener used this past week's to support that with Locke blowing up the submarine. However, I still think that Ben must have the upper-hand with that. I think Locke has heart, but does not necessarily have the smarts it takes to outwit Ben.

PS: Last night's episode was really, really interesting. Can't wait to hear your take next week!

3:04 pm  
Blogger swishfish said...

The official podcast is usually pretty good. The producers answer fan email, so you get cold, hard, gospel fact answers to questions rather than speculation. For example, when I listened to it last night they confirmed that the "box" is not a literal box.

Interestingly, considering your post, they also talked about the development of the Ben character. When they first wrote the storyline he was supposed to only be captured for 3 episodes, and was not the leader of the others. They liked the actor so much that they decided (as they had not already) that he would be the leader, and extended the storyline accordingly.

So I'm not sure that either he or Jack are what it's "all about". I'm sure that's Locke.

I'm looking forward to this week's. I just found out that the actor who plays Paulo is also Xerxes in "300". Surprising.

3:51 pm  
Blogger Jenny said...

I haven't seen 300. I also am not a huge fan of Paulo or Nikki (I can't get over the fact that she looks like a cross between Kate and Mandy Moore). I was just going to talk about something that happened in this most recent episode, but I've just remembered that you haven't seen it yet. So...nevermind.

Maybe I should give the official LOST podcast another try. I think I love the questions, so I'm not bothered by the fact that they raise so many more in every episode. I feel that in that way, it's very true to life in that the older I get the more I realize the world is really grey in the sense that issues are not black and white and although there are a lot of "facts" in the world, there is a lot more speculation.

Um, but I wanted you to know that Tisra has posed a question to you on my blog re: the Welsh. I also am not really sure what you mean by a principality or whatever. Are you meaning that it's like Puerto Rico is to the US?

6:10 pm  

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